Mike Vick Data

Here is the Mike Vick data that I used. Included are the graphs that you have already seen, all of the plays that were 15 yard penalties from the previous year, a tab for roughing the passer and unnecessary roughness plays (italicized are the ones that were called personal fouls that I then translated to one of the two) and the QB plays (sacks, runs, qb hits).

Again, some of the data may be off because if a safety or cornerback committed one of the two penalties, it won’t be reflected in the stats. Have at it.

Also, I hope to get some data for 02, 04, 05, and 06 now that I see that more than 10 people have seen the blog. These are the years that Vick played at least half the season. Probably won’t be up too soon, but I’ll work on it.

Google Doc Mike Vick


An Independent Study of Mike Vick and Penalties

As Kevin Negandhi might say, a lot has been made about Michael Vick getting the opposite of special treatment when it comes to getting roughed up because he happens to be able to run forward more often than other quarterbacks. So I wanted to see if I could come up with a high level way of seeing if this is true. After watching Vick get shellacked by the Falcons a few weeks ago, I started making some graphs, because graphs are fun. Thanks to Brian Burke at Advanced NFL Stats, I looked at the play by play data from 2010 to compile some penalty data.

Now, for a few disclosures:
This is obviously a small sample size, 1 year, and some quarterbacks only drew one or two penalties.

For QB total hits I added Sacks + Runs + QB hits, because these are when quarterbacks can be hit, and I don’t know any great websites for QB slides data, so shut up.

QB hits represent a % of the total QB hits allowed by their offensive lines, based on the % of a team’s pass attempts the QB accounted for.

All the quarterbacks in the chart drew either a personal foul (which I then re-classified as Unneccessary Roughness or Roughing the Passer), an Unnecessary Roughness call, or Roughing the Passer. However, I removed Bruce Gradkowski, Tony Pike, Brian Hoyer, and Matt Stafford due to lack of snaps.

The data isn’t perfect. I had to make a judgement call on an unnecessary roughness penalty. When the penalty was called on a defensive lineman or linebacker that was not part of the tackle, I assumed that they committed the foul against the quarterback, the same did not go for cornerbacks/safeties.

So let’s get to it.

First up is Unneccessary Roughness. The problem with Unneccessary Roughness is that it is seemingly interchangeable with Roughing the Passer. However, since one can draw an Uneccessary Roughness penalty when one runs or passes, I’ve included rushing attempts for this graph, which could depress Vick’s rate a little, but he would still be below average. The difference between him and the average decreases from .72% to .63%.

Next is Roughing the Passer, so this includes only QB hits and Sacks to determine the percentage of penalties/times hit.


Vick got roughly the same number of Roughing the Passer calls, but as a percentage of the times he was hit, still below average.

Finally, the total number of 15 yard penalties drawn. Obviously based on the previous two graphs Vick is going to be below average, but here it is just for kicks.

So based on 2010 data, albeit a little subjective, it appears that Vick does have a case in his complaints to the league about not getting the calls. Not to mention, even without these graphs, it appears plainly obvious in watching Eagles’ games that he should be getting more calls, but that is coming from an Eagles fan’s perspective.

If people want to see the spreadsheet I used, let me know in the comments or an email.

Basketball Teams: American Presidents vs. World Leaders

Obama Playing Basketball

And now, for something that isn’t complaining about the number of times Tom Jackson says football, a piece from out historical correspondent.

Tired of lists that focus solely on talented basketball players, I’ve decided to compose a list of the best starting five, sixth man, and coach among American and World leaders.  This operates on the assumption that world leaders are usually shorter than basketball players, and therefore anyone who’s 6’1” now or 5’10” several centuries ago when people were shorter would be tall enough to play forward, and guards can start at 5’10” in today’s height or 5’7” in yesterday’s.
Let’s look at the American team:

  • Forward: Barack Obama.  Obama is the only president who we know plays basketball.  He’s the only president who went one-on-one with Rajon Rondo and was reportedly partially successful.  Also, he’s the only black president.  NBA Equivalent: Teyshaun Prince
  • Forward: Abraham Lincoln.  The tallest President we’ve ever had.  He reportedly split rails and lifted big jugs of whiskey as a hobby.  No-brainer.  NBA Equivalent: Kevin Love
  • Center: George Washington.  At 6’2”, George Washington is two inches shorter than Lincoln (but was still enormous for his day and age).  He also had no teeth, and problems down there.  But he brings perhaps the best athleticism from the Revolutionary era, and also some beefcake to a fairly skinny frontcourt. NBA Equivalent: Glen Davis
  • Guard: Gerald Ford.  You wouldn’t know it watching Chevy Chase, but Ford was actually one of the most athletic presidents we’ve ever had.  Sure, he played football (made the College All-Star Game) instead of basketball, but so what?  Also, he was 6’0” NBA Equivalent: Charlie Ward
  • Guard: Dwight D. Eisenhower.  A scrappy 5’10½” general/president at the point (or should I say Point?). Was a good football player, until Jim Thorpe ran him over.  Also, probably one of the best presidential golfers NBA Equivalent: Jason Kidd
  • Sixth Man: Teddy Roosevelt.  He was only 5’10”, overweight, and wore glasses.  But he exemplified the “strenous life”, and was clearly the most macho of all of our presidents.  The guy got shot in the middle of speech and finished it!  NBA Equivalent: Nate Robinson
  • Coach: Franklin D. Roosevelt.  Apart from having polio, FDR was one of our most athletic presidents.  He probably had some of the best upper body strength of all the Presidents, as he had to swim and move himself around using mostly his arms.  In terms of being a tactician, consider that he was Commander-in-Chief during WWII NBA Equivalent: George Karl

And here’s the international team:

  • Center: Charles de Gaulle, France.  He was 6’5”.  When he was in the army, he got shot, stabbed, and gassed…and lived.  Oh, and did I mention he was 6’5”?  NBA Equivalent: Dominique Wilkins
  • Forward: Henry VIII, England.  He was reportedly 6’3”, an astoundingly tall height for the Renaissance.  Brings beefcake to the table…chock full of mutton legs and red meat (and syphilis).  Also has stamina from boffing all those wives and mistresses.  NBA Equivalent: Todd MacCulloch
  • Forward: Shaka, Zulus.  Four words for you: White. Men. Can’t. Jump.  Also was very buff and went around carrying a spear.  NBA Equivalent: Luc Richard Mbah a Moute

And for the backcourt, I’m going ancient.  Do we know how tall these guys were?  No.  Are they super-intense, which would probably translate to blood on the court?  Yes.  Oh, and new rule…you can’t bring a sword out of the locker room

  • Guard: Commonus, Roman Empire.  The son and successor to Marcus Aurelius, he was one in a noble tradition of Roman Emperors who were off their keesters.  He fought gladiators in the Forum.  Nuff said.  NBA Equivalent: Danilo Gallinari
  • Guard: Leonidas, Sparta.  THIS IS SPARTA!!!!  Did I mention that Spartans had a better athletic/military training then many Olympic teams do. NBA Equivalent: Goran Dragic
  •  Sixth Man: George V, England. Pretty much the English version of Teddy Roosevelt.  Kicked it in India, hunted big game, shot a thousand pheasants in one afternoon. Was he as macho as T.R.?  Probably not.  Was anybody as macho as T.R.?  Probably not  NBA Equivalent: Ben Gordon
  • Coach: Charles Martel, Franks.  He saved Europe from being conquered by the Muslims.  Could he save the International team from being routed by Obama?  Maybe. NBA Equivalent: Lawrence Frank


Football! Week 3

The weekly update on the limited vocabulary of the hosts of Sunday NFL Countdown.

Do not let Keyshawn talk about wide receivers. He was way behind until the “Best Hands” segment, and he took full advantage.

Some other noteworthy moments from the show:

Ditka saying that the Saints were a better team than the Texans, but he chooses the Texans to win, as long as they have the “right mindset.”

When asked what kind of mindset he was coming into the game with, Drew Brees said “a losing one.”

Then, Ditka decides that he wants to outdo himself by saying that Atlanta is a better “football team,” but still chooses the Buccaneers to win because they are going to “find a way to win.”

Inspector Josh Freeman is on the case for a win, watch out, Atlanta!

No kidding…

Just a little something I picked up on from ESPN this morning.

5 minute segment about Deangelo Hall saying that he is going to target Tony Romo’s ribs, followed by:

Kevin Negandhi – Now, a lot has been made of Deangelo Hall’s comments about how he is going to target Tony Romo’s ribs this weekend.

Nooooooo way! Do you think that your program restating the comments every 30 minutes might have something to do with that? Nice transition, Kevin.



NFL countdown features a few individuals with very limited vocabularies. In between every useless “special” feature, Boom, TJ, Keyshawn, Chris Carter, and Mike Ditka have a competition to see who can say the word “football” the most. Let’s check this week’s results.

Tom Jackson delivered big time and Ditka had a late charge to overtake Chris Carter.

The low totals can be attributed to a few different factors:

The lockout
Ochocinco’s tweets
2 hours of ball washing Cam Newton
The fact that I felt like making breakfast

Just a little instruction on how the game is played:

Saying “Sunday Night Football” or the name of another show does not count.

Common phrases include –
He’s a great football player.
He just knows how to run the football.
This is a good football team.
The National Football League.

The worst of all: The New York Football Giants.
No shit! There hasn’t been another Giants team in New York since 1957.

We know what fucking sport your talking about, you’re show is called Sunday NFL countdown. No one watches your show for updates on the Red Sox playoff chase, retards.

Hey Bill Plashcke, look what took me 20 minutes… research!

The King of Morons, Bill Plaschke, touched on a very important topic today, his personal disgust for the Oakland Raiders and their penalties!

Truly riveting stuff, Bill. Let’s get right into it, shall we?

The Oakland Raiders played perhaps the toughest football of the NFL’s first week Monday, overpowering the Denver Broncos with three forced turnovers and five sacks while rushing for 152 more (Plaschke’s emphasis) yards in a 23-20 victory.

Bill, if I may interrupt this already amazing piece of sports journalism, but what exactly do you use to quantify the “toughest football of the NFL’s first week”? Did the Ravens not cause 7 turnovers, while sacking Ben Roethlisberger 4 times? While, I admit, I didn’t get to see the entire game, I can imply that the Ravens defense must have been laying Big Ben down on pillows after each sack, or else they would be the clear favorites for the NFL’s toughest first week team.

They also played absolutely the dumbest, most thuggish football of the first week with 15 penalties for 131 yards, more penalties than were assessed the New Patriots, Green Bay Packers and New York Jets combined.

Well jeez, Bill, that sure is a small sample size, 1 week. The Broncos had 91 penalty yards themselves, only 7 fewer than those same Patriots, Green Bay Packers, and New York jets.

By the way, Bill, who in god’s name are the New Patriots? Are there Old Patriots that I should be worried about? How many penalty yards did they have?

This next takes the cake though:

The Jets, incidentally, had zero penalties while mounting a bruising comeback against the Dallas Cowboys, proving it is possible to use both your muscles and your brains, sometimes even at the same time.

The Jets had two turnovers, Bill! Care to guess how many the Raiders had? 1. 1, as in the number that is less than 2. I would take a few personal fouls than fumble the ball in the opponent’s red zone any day. Maybe the Raiders should play New York Jet football and turn the ball over more!

The Raiders never seem to understand this, which once again makes them the biggest waste of football space imaginable, a bunch of talented and probably decent guys who won’t become champions because they are too focused on acting like street punks.

How about the fact that they were 21st in DVOA last year, or that Al Davis is somehow still in charge of the team, or that they let the only good coach they have had in a while walk. No, it is because they act like street punks. Care to elaborate, Bill? Of course you do!

On display Monday was the truth rarely understood by fans with lives draped in silver and black. The color that owns their organization is actually yellow. What they love most about their Raiders is precisely what dooms them. Their rogue rebelliousness may win hearts, but it loses games.

For all their bluster, the Raiders haven’t won a Super Bowl in 28 years. In the eight seasons since their last Super Bowl appearance, after the 2002 season, they have finished an average of 29th out of the 32 teams in number of penalties. How many times have they had winning records during those years? Zero. What has been their record during that time? Would you believe 38-91?

I made a chart for you Bill.

I am sure that you are too stupid to interpret a graph, so I’ll do it for you. There is virtually no correlation between Penalty Yards per Play and a team’s winning percentage.

The R^2 is .0207. That doesn’t bode well for the point you are trying to make. I starred the Raiders data points, just for you, and it actually looks like it is slightly positively correlated, so the Raiders should be committing more penalties!

Go on Bill, please, continue.

And when they weren’t shoving or slapping or tearing off their helmets and prancing around like angry guys on a darkened street corner, they were violating even the most simple of football rules. On one drive, tackle Stephon Heyer jumped offside on consecutive plays.

What!?!?!?! How dare Stephon Heyer do that! He should be burned at the stake! Surely no other back up lineman would ever dare pull a stunt like that. Also, you moron, defensive players go offside, offensive tackles false start.

You remember that last Raider Super Bowl played in San Diego, right? Barret Robbins, the Raiders all-pro center, disappeared two days before kickoff to reportedly go on a drunken binge in Tijuana. He never showed up, and his team never recovered, losing 48-21 to a Tampa Bay Buccaneers team coached by a exiled former Raider coach named Jon Gruden.

Now I am just nitpicking because I hate you, but it is “an” exiled former Raider coach named Jon Gruden, no a exiled. Don’t you read your own crap?

One final thing…

These sorts of collapses will not end until Davis finally retires and releases control of the team, allowing his great athletes to feel comfortable being smart and controlled athletes.

What has any Raider done that is comparable to missing the Super Bowl to go on a drunken binge in Tijuana? And by the way, Robbins was bipolar, and I doubt Al Davis caused that.